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Hollywood meeting with a French movie star
Vincent Perez is one of those stars who no longer need an
introduction. His work as an actor (he has
starred in over 30 movies), director, screenwriter, cameraman, producer and
graphic novelist has demonstrated that he is more than just a
heartthrob.
He was discovered by the public for his roles as a
romantic lover. He played Christian in Jean-Paul
Rappeneau's Cyrano de Bergerac,
Jean-Baptiste in Régis Wargnier's Indochine, and La Môle in Patrice
Chéreau's La Reine Margot. In 1995 Perez
went international and played Niccolo in Beyond the Clouds by
Michelangelo Antonioni and Wim Wenders, as well as
Ashe in Tim Pope's The Crow: City of Angels. His penchant for fantasy
was revealed in The Queen of the Damned and
The Secret, which is also the second feature he had directed. In 1992
he won the Jean Gabin prize for promising young
actors and in the late 90s he was nominated for two Césars (the French
version of the Academy Awards) - one for best supporting actor in
Philippe de Broca's Le Bossu and one
for Patrice Chéreau's Those Who Love Me Can Take The Train.
His first feature-length film, Peau d'ange,
earned him a nomination at the Montreal International Film Festival's
Grand Prize of the Americas.
By a lucky coincidence, Vincent
Perez was in California when the French Tuesdays celebrated their six-month
anniversary in Los Angeles. While in the midst of
the cosmopolitan and Francophile crowd waiting outside the Moonshadow
Restaurant in Malibu, I ran into a smiling,
relaxed Vincent Perez; he kindly accepted my request for an interview. We
agreed to meet at the Sunset Marquis hotel, and
two days later, there he was, wearing jeans and a safari jacket looking like
an eternal teenager. We sat at a table by the
poolside.
Kareen Slajer: How did you
develop a passion for the movies?
Vincent Perez: Movies provide
escapism, a symbol of life and travel through space and time. I remember,
when my parents weren't home, I secretly watched
the late night movies. They always played amazing films. This is how I
discovered Elia Kazan, Marlon Brando, James Dean,
Hitchcock's movies, Kurosawa's Seven Samurai… I was 10 or 12, and it
felt like an electric shock. My father turned me
on to Charlie Chaplin, and it gave me the desire to make movies. I first
fell in love with films, actors - they're usually
the ones who attract us in the first place - and then with images and
directing.I love the movies in their entirety, but
here I'm talking about the end result. I'm not so enamored with the
complicated process involved in the making of a
film. I hate the fact that it takes so much money.
KS: Would you call Patrice Chéreau your
mentor?
VP: Absolutely. He has been. To this day he unconsciously
influences me. I'm privileged to have made three
movies with him and collaborated with him in the theatre. I joined his
experimental school at the Théâtre des Amandiers in
Nanterre, near Paris. Through an exchange program between the school
and UCLA, I discovered Los Angeles in 1986. We did
excerpts of musicals like A Chorus Line and, at the time, I couldn't
speak a word of English. [(Laughs.] We were
studying the method, as it had been taught by Lee Strasberg at the Actors
Studio. Ah, those were the years!
KS: Is there a specific
director you worked with that gave you the desire to become a director in
your own right?
VP: Michelangelo Antonioni is
the one who convinced me to go behind the camera. It was in 1992, and I had
just finished my first short film, L'exchange.
At the time I was shooting a movie with him and Wim Wenders. I thought I
would show Antonioni the short some evening, after
the dailies. A pal of mine wanted to project his own on a Monday - Jean Reno
was in it - and I decided to show mine the day
after. After the dailies, my friend showed his film and before it was even
over Antonioni got up and left the room! He hated
the movie. So you can imagine how I felt the next day when it was my turn.
Thankfully, it wasn't very long, but Antonioni
stayed until the end and he said, “Bene, bene.” [Laughs.] All the directors
inspired me. There are plenty with whom I would
love to work, like Roman Polanski, for instance.I love discovering films:
new ones, old ones… I had never seen A Place in
the Sun with Elizabeth Taylor and Montgomery Clift. Movies like that
make me feel alive. In this movie, there's a
sequence with both actors around a pool table. It's a cinematic masterpiece.
The emotion is real. I need sequences of this
kind, when we almost feel as if we were projected into another dimension.
KS: Is there an actor or
actress whom you dream of starring with?
VP: I'm currently working on a project as director, and
I'd love to cast Meryl Streep in it. Being her
partner on the screen would be a real treat, but above all, one of my dreams
is to direct her. By the way, I just came across a
movie I had never seen before where she plays an amazing part: Sophie's
Choice. I still haven't recovered from watching it.
KS: Could you tell us about your current project?
VP: It's the reason why I'm
here today in Los Angeles. I've finally obtained the rights of
Seul dans Berlin, a novel by Hans Fallada. It
took me a year and a half. It's a classic German
novel about 1940s Berlin and an insider's look at Germany at the time. I
want to shoot the movie in English, so I came here
to find an English-speaking producer. I found one - I'm not going back to
Paris empty-handed. A few other producers are still reading the
script. I've also written an original screenplay, La Fôret,
set in the time of King Arthur and the Knights of the
Round Table. It's a pretty funny movie, but I'd rather call it a
“dramedy.” It takes place in the Forest of Brocéliande, in the midst
of all those legends: Morgan, Merlin, the devil, ghosts,
witches, water nymphs, etc.While the movie plans are in the works -
it's going to be very expensive - the graphic novel is
going to be published in April by Casterman - Tintin's publisher -
who is very enthusiastic about it. It's a long comic book -
about 100 pages - distributed by Thiburs Augé. I'm thrilled. The
graphic novel is a good start, especially with this type of
movie, because the visual element is very important. The drawings
from the graphic novel can be used as a luxury
storyboard. The comic will be published in French, but I absolutely need to
find an American editor, since American formats
are different. My friend, Jean Veber, is the American comic book specialist.
KS: And you've worked with him?
VP: Yes, he's the director of
Le Pharmacien de Garde.
KS: Could you discuss The Secret, your second film
as a director?
VP: The Secret is done.
Luc Besson produced it - he was also behind Peau d'ange
- and he also initiated the project. Right now
we're looking for a distributor. If I had to describe the movie, I would say
that it's a drama laced with a supernatural theme,
starring David Duchovny and Lili Taylor. The main role is played by a young
actress, a true find if you ask me. Her name is
Olivia Thirlby; she's incredible. The movie is based on a peculiar story
from Japan - the
Japanese like stories where spirits wander about in other people's bodies.
KS: Does Hollywood make you dream or does
it make you want to vomit?
VP: Some days it makes me dream and other times it makes
me vomit. What's good about Hollywood is that everything
is possible. If I say I'd like to work with Meryl Streep, it's because
there's actually a chance that she could end up with the screenplay in her
hands. In France, we're the kings of the impossible. Impossible is very
French. We don't like changes, we're rigid and conservative. It's a problem
for me, since I only want to make movies in English. I want to make movies
anyone can watch.
KS: Was it a challenge to play a woman's part in Those
Who Love Me
Can Take The Train?
VP:
Yes, it was a physical challenge.Once, Abel Ferrara offered me to
impersonate a transsexual opposite Christopher
Walken in a movie that didn't end up being made. So I organized a photo
shoot at my house with a photographer-friend. I
wanted to see what I would look like dressed as a girl, since I had never
imagined that I could be an attractive woman.
Something happened during the photo shoot. Those two or three hours were
amazing. I loved it; it was a real challenge.
Especially since I'm really into out-of-the-ordinary roles and I'm not
offered enough of them. So I found myself with
these pictures and didn't know what to do with them. One day, Patrice
Chéreau called me and said, “I'm writing a
screenplay, and I'd like to write a part for you, but I don't know what to
write.” Two weeks later, we were in Sarasota for
the French Film Festival and I had the pictures with me. I showed them to
him and said, “Patrice, you should meet this
actress.” He looked at the first picture, the second, and while he was
looking at the third one he burst out laughing
when he figured out it was me. He loved the idea. A few weeks later he
called me and said, “Viviane is born.”So yes, it
was a challenge, because just before the shoot began we realized we could
bomb. Obviously we were afraid of looking
ridiculous.
KS: Have you worked with a coach?
VP: No, I've always worked on my own, like a big boy.
However, I borrowed feminine mannerisms left and
right. The positioning of the legs, running my hand through my hair and down
my neck, etc. Viviane is an amalgam of a few of my
friends. From the moment I put on a wig, I played the part for 15 hours a
day, non-stop. It took me three hours to find the high-pitched voice.
After that I stayed in the part until the evening. For
the first three weeks I didn't see anyone, I stayed in my room and
focused; it lasted three months. The fascinating thing
is, the people on the set knew Viviane better than they knew me. They
were attached to Viviane. The actresses came and
chatted, we had women-like conversations and the men came to flirt!
[Laughs.] And I can assure you they were
heterosexual. I never had to ask for a chair, someone always brought it for
me. I served tea on the set. My real name wasn't
even on the service card - Viviane's name was on it. Someone had come up
with a last name I shall not divulge… [Laughs.]
Well, okay, it was my mother's maiden name. On the last day of the shoot,
everyone came to say goodbye to Viviane, it was
incredible, some people were crying. It wasn't me playing the part anymore,
it was Viviane, and that's amazing.
KS: As a public figure, do you ever want to take on a
political issue in the fashion of George Clooney, who is
fighting against genocide in Sudan?VP : I think what George Clooney
does is amazing; it's great and deserves respect.
I'm more focused on humanitarian issues. I'd like to invest some time in
Sidaction [an AIDS organization] in Paris. During
the last year we've been negotiating to set up vignettes that would bring to
mind the idea of danger, because AIDS is on the
rise again. People at risk of contracting AIDS are no longer the three H's
(homosexuals, heroin users and hemophiliacs); now
they're also housewives and heterosexual couples. So we're going to put
together this documentary with Sidaction. Besides
that, I did a commercial against the death penalty in China in 2002. Over
the last 10 years, 29,000 people were condemned to
death. How many more until the Olympic Games of 2008?
KS: While discussing your
character in Fanfan, you said: “It's a character that fits me well,
and that helps me get rid of the label of the dark, silent
type that I've been dragging around for a long time.” Mission
accomplished?
VP: Did I say that? Sometimes we say the
strangest things. I'm now completely
indifferent to it, especially since the image of heartthrob is gone. What's
difficult is to make one's image evolve, to make
it change. I've been working on that for the last three or four years. I'm
getting there, even if it took a long time,
because people only want to see me in certain parts and not in others. I'm
trying to make career choices that will broaden my
range as an actor.
KS: Would you consider working here in the City of
Angels?
VP: You have to live here to
have regular work here, unless you're like Jean Reno, a star who has had a
series of American hits. There was a time while I
was in Los Angeles during which I received several offers, and then I went
back to France. Now I'm thinking of coming back
here to live with my family.
KS: Do you have any anecdotes from the set of La Reine
Margot that you'd like to share with our readers?
VP: Of course, I have several…I had a tragicomedic
exploit. It was during a horseback riding scene. I
had a dagger behind me and a sword in front. At the moment I got on my
horse, the dagger stung the horse. Needless to
say, he took off at a gallop without giving me the chance to put on my
stirrups. The horse threw me and during the fall I
thought about the risk of falling on the sword or the dagger. So I ended up
six feet in the air, limbs flying and trying to
unsheathe my weapons; I landed on my back. Luckily there was peat on the
ground and it softened the fall. There was a
moment of silence and when I got up, everyone clapped. [Laughs.] It was the
perfect stunt!
[Written by Kareen Slajer]
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